Both the AFL-CIO labor federation and SEIU, one of the country’s largest unions are holding emergency meetings today to decide what to do about the Senate bill. While the unions won’t make a final decision on the bill without the actual language to evaluate, these meetings are critical to deciding if they’ll pour their considerable resources into supporting, blocking, or sitting out the bill.
Sam Stein reports:
Though there’s no official word yet, early indications based on talks with various officials are that the groups will either formally oppose the legislation or, less dramatically, just not fight very hard to ensure its passage.
Labor leaders are fuming at the concessions that Democratic leadership made in the last few days to win the support of the caucus’s most conservative members, notably Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.). A bill that already included one highly objectionable provision (a tax on so-called Cadillac insurance plans) was stripped of a provision beloved by labor: a public alternative to private insurance coverage. Frustration boiled over even further after the leadership succumbed to Lieberman’s demand to jettison even the compromise to the public option — a proposal to expand Medicare to those as young as 55.
SEIU’s Dennis Rivera – former leader of healthcare local 1199 and current lead on the union’s healthcare campaign – backed out of an event with allied groups today to promote the Senate bill.
“That decision has to be made by our leaders and our members,” [spokeswoman Lori] Lodes said. The event with the AARP and the other groups was scheduled before Reid made changes to the bill.
The SEIU executive board will hold what Lodes described as an “emergency” meeting Wednesday night to decide how to move forward. “Right now, they don’t have the information they need to make this decision,” said Lodes, who added that the SEIU informed the other organizations on Tuesday they would not be joining the press conference.
The groups, including AARP, Families USA, and American Cancer Society, have worked closely with SEIU throughout the campaign for health care reform. For SEIU to buck this coalition now is significant, though the true test will be what happens at tonight’s emergency meeting of leadership.
The AFL-CIO still hasn’t backed off its demand for a public option in health care reform. While it’s tough to see the federation spiking reform over the public option, the Chevy tax currently in the bill is of such detriment to unions that complete opposition to the bill is possible. Remember, according to Jon Walker, it’s a real possibility that “unless we do health care right, every private sector union could be dead in 9 years.” These are the stakes, and finally the unions are waking up.
UPDATE: Ben Smith talks to Randi Weingarten and other sources from the AFL-CIO:
The meeting of leading AFL’s presidents meeting just concluded at the organization’s Washington, D.C. headquarters, and an AFL staffer also said the timing of the legislation prevented a final decision.
“Labor is looking to make the bill better,” American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten told me in a brief interview after the meeting. [...]
Another labor official warned that while labor leaders will likely grudgingly support the legislation, some may be bitter enough to sit out the midterm elections, dealing a blow to Democrats.
Still, the conventional wisdom on the White House and Capitol Hill remains that labor has too much at stake, and is too closely tied to the Democratic leaders, not to support health care reform.
“They won’t oppose it,” said an official involved in conversations with top labor leaders. “But they will definitely say tough things in the press.”
If the strategy to kill LieberCare is to “say tough things in the press,” don’t look for this to have too much impact. If unions wants to spike LieberCare, they could do it in a minute. But it looks like they won’t. They still want the Employee Free Choice Act.



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Let’s hope Trumka comes out of the meeting with a strong statement that the current Senate bill “Is just NOT GOOD ENOUGH…”
Are you assuming, or do you know, that AARP is still on board? The drug plan is a big deal for its members.
I realize that they probably are thinking along these lines, but it’s futile. EFCA has even less of a chance of becoming law than Single Payer Health Care does. Do bad they don’t know this.
Perhaps if they did jump in and fight, and changed the dynamics a bit, it could even make EFCA a little more possible. I don’t see it ever seeing the light of day though. No way in hell this Congress, and most especially 60 US Senators, passes EFCA. NO WAY.
One calf to another:
Do you think we’ve finally gotten to that phase of the process?
Michael –
far be it for me to be second guessing you
but how in the hell could they possibly spin the Excise Tax with membership ?
and who in their right mind thinks this is the Congress that’s gonna pass EFCA ?
It is not Liebercare it is ObamaCare. The blame goes right to Obama
Blowback is mounting!
Let’s not let up!
the current Senate bill “Is
just NOT GOOD ENOUGH…”dogshit.Fixed it.
AARP endorsed this week. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/72343-aarp-endorses-senate-health-bill
All good questions. I really don’t know how to explain either, but that’s the reality.
About Time!
AARP is nothing more than an arm of United Healthcare.
I’ve seen more appealing dogshit.
Let it turn into a category 5 hurricane.
“though the true test will be what happens at tonight’s emergency meeting of leadership.”; yup and from Smith’s reporting, they have given up.
And “If unions wants to spike LieberCare, they could do it in a minute. But it looks like they won’t. They still want the Employee Free Choice Act.” tells me they are completely delusional if they think that by backing ObamaRahma on the Senate bill they’ll get EFCA passed.
Mike, I urge you to think about what has been Emmanuel’s ‘duty’ these past few years, namely to bludgeon the ‘leftist’ members of Congress to move to a supposed center.
Labor has been sold out and if it’s leaders can’t see the handwriting on the wall they need to step down and let some real leaders take over.
I’m hoping the blow back will leave Obama and his sycophants in the administration reeling. Americans want a leader to kick ass and take names. Instead Obama is willing to throw the American people under the bus so he can claim a hollow “victory.”
The “center” in the U.S. would be seen as the far right in Europe.
we shall see dahlin’
I no longer give a shit about labor. They are ready to cut off their nose to spite OUR face. Unions have already been all but defeated by decades of Reagonomic Democraps so their vote on this is just more shit to me.
All I care about is hurting the Democraps, REALLY hurting them, in 2010 as just the first shot across their bow. They need to LOSE. Towards this end, while I was originally planning to simply quit voting, that isn’t good enough. Instead I am going to actually vote but I am going to vote AGAINST Democraps rather than for anyone. I hope there is a socialist, communist, libertarian, green, etc, on the ballot too so I can toss my vote their way but if not I WILL cast the vote for the GOPer.
I want [edited by mod] but voting actively against them is the next best thing.
For now.
[modnote: no violence please.]
Jane, when you’re right, you’re right. I’ve been holding out hope that Obama was at least somewhat sympathetic to some progressive goals, but it really looks like he’s decided to go all in on the corporatist front. The prospect of another four or eight years going by with yet another large roadblock in the way of all of our goals in the White House is a profoundly depressing one.
The center is the far right here by any objective measure. Not a day goes by that I don’t see Ben Nelson described as a “centrist.”
This is excessive nonsense and worse.
Get over it. I’m pissed and wont cut back.
If Rahm were before me I’d flatten his nose and kick him when he went down. Count on it. I’m that pissed.
Unions want to kill this bill fine tell Mayor Daley he will have a well funded Democratic Primary challenge next election that and his son won’t get any Union support either. Rahm and Obama both owe him their seats in Illinois.
If the Dems lose Daley they lose the State of Illinois.
Tell Harry No Union support for him or his son next election and there will be primaries.
Which this administration and Congress will support on the shout shows while working behind the scenes to outlaw unions altogether. Whatever the bosses want the bosses will get from this sorry bunch.
And I’m getting more and more pissed by the day.
True and after the way we were treated on healthcare the Unions should know they are next.
I certainly understand your anger, but the threats of physical violence need to stop or the mods will have to start removing your comments from the threads.
There’s a problem, though: at about a minute in, this guy [clip] says, “it’s not the president. His values are right, blah blah.”
News flash: it IS the President, and this catastrophe is just what he wanted.
Or, even if he didn’t “want” it in advance, because his highest priorty is to sign “something,” he’s willing to take anything and fight for nothing.
accepting or (ugh) endorsing a bill with the Excise Tax will demoralize membership – and the effects will be felt immediately – unlike DNC, Trumka doesn’t have several layers between him and his base
I think that’s why Stern isn’t doing his usual handsprings on the WH lawn
AWESOME!!!
What a bumper sticker you just made. Perrrrttty keeewwllll.
I like it!
Yeah, well Obama, the Dems and Lieberman have been SO reliable at keeping their promises.
How do you think THAT is going to work out?
We could start a contest creating the 1001 excuses that will erupt for why EFCA “can’t pass,” despite Obama’s “best efforts.”
I hope the union leaders get a written contract with Obama, and that it’s written in blood. [Mods, no violence intended.]
Thanks. I’ll put it right next to my
.
I suspect a giant corporate welfare package is what Obama had in mind all along, with the goal being to keep Dem coffers full for at least the next four years. They gambled that they would be able to spin it as being for the common good. After all, emphasizing style over substance got him elected.
A Yiddish tribute to Senator “Sleaseberman”:
Vos-zhe bistu, Lieberman, b’royges?
Vos hostu aropgelozt di noz?
Oy, efsher vilstu visn dayn yikhes?
Ken ich dir dertseyln ver un vos:
Dayn tate iz a shmarovoznik
Dayn mame ganvet fish in mark
Un dayn bruder iz a kartyozhnik
Un dayn shvester leybt mit a Kozak.
Dayn feter iz geshtanen oyf di rogn
Dayn mume — a hendlerke in gas
Un dayn bruder zitst in di ostrogn
Un dayn shvester… ai-di-di-dai-dai-dum.
Dayn zeyde iz geven a shoykhet
Dayn bobe — a tukerke in bod
Un aleyn bist du a mamzer
Genumen bist du fun priyut.
English Translation:
Why, Lieberman, are you so angry?
Why is your nose turned down?
Oy, perhaps you’d like to know your breeding?
I can tell you who and what:
Your father greases wagon wheels
Your mother steals fish at the fair
And your brother is a card-sharp
And your sister lives with a Cossack.
Your uncle hangs around streetcorners
Your aunt — a street-peddler
And your brother sits in prison
And your sister… ai-di-di-dai-dai-dum.
Your grandpa was a butcher
Your grandma — a bath-house attendant
And you yourself are a bastard
Taken from an orphanage.
Bahahaha.
Well, don’t forget that they need to do “entitlement reform” so they can cut granny’s pay and healthcare coverage to allow for more bank backstopping, more wall street backstopping, and to improve the bottom line for big pharma and insurance companies.
If labor won’t stand up for their membership and fight this, then they deserve to have EFCA vaporize before their very eyes. Morons! How can they be so foolish? I am reminded of the Niemoller poem, “first they came for…”… if labor won’t stand and fight with progressives now, what on earth makes them think we will stand and fight with them for EFCA? And more importantly how can they ever imagine that they will be successful if they let themselves get rolled now?
Yep.
Seems we should start with disobedience, first. If they insist on selling us out (AGAIN!) and shove this legislation down our throats, it’s time to say NO MORE and REFUSE to obey the law by NOT paying forced tribute to the blood-drinking vampires of the health insurance “industry.”
What could they do when 45 million people “Just Say No”?
The insurance companies lost a ton of money in the banking crisis they had to I think by law invest in safe securities…like banks.
What do you want to bet their books are like the banks funny. What do want to bet that if real healthcare passed they would all go under a lot sooner than we thought.
This healthcare bill is to much of a give away for the insurance companies sure they like profit but this big of a cash grab this much Dem support suggests they are desperate.
Bingo!
What health care reform? All I see is another megacorporate bailout!
And this gets to the heart of the problem. Both Clintons sold us out, now Obama seems to be following their lead. Time for union power to stretch it’s muscle. Making “We cannot support any candidate who wants this corporate medical cos bailout.” more than just a PR statement is going to be difficult but that’s what rank and file needs to get across to leadership. Let’s really become fighting unions. Enough of this constant rope-a-dope. If we need to mobilize to natl job actions then we must do so. I hope Randi is reading these blogs.
AFT Local 1021 delegate
That is my intent. I am NOT going to accept a mandate that I underwrite CEO bonuses and shareholder dividends.
No fucking way. I will disobey.
same here. health care shouldn’t be a for profit business
That theory of yours has a real hint of truth to it.
Sorta like ‘what if there was a war and nobody came’; I’d love to see them try to prosecute all who refuse to pay. If they try to use the IRS to confiscate such penalties, then there will be violence.
Civil disobedience is a time honored tradition that will likely make a very strong comeback if this garbage legislation passes.
Whatever we think of the unions, they’ve still got some pretty good throw-weight. Shouldn’t we be asking them to join us in killing this bill?
If they come out on that, it could be enough to do it.
Thanks for highlighting this – I saw the original video segment and found it quite interesting. I don’t see how manufacturers (other than PhRMA) can stay competitive without addressing health care, and employees know it.
I was glad to hear Gerard say that they’ll hold some of these Senators accountable; and that includes the GOP obstructionists.
I am sooooooo ready for a general strike – even if only for a day. It’s way overdue.
Union power is people power.
As a retired union member I expect all unions to oppose this hand-out to the insurance companies and work to kill the Senate’s so-called Health Care Reform Bill.