
NNU rally via National Nurses United on Flickr
The National Nurses United, a brand new union created earlier this month and the largest professional group of nurses in the country, officially opposes the Senate health care bill. NNU, a member of the AFL-CIO, slammed the Senate bill as a giveaway to the insurance industry that falls far short of real reform.
National Nurses United, the nation’s largest registered nurses union and professional organization, declared on Tuesday that the Senate health care bill gives away too much to insurance companies and “fails to meet the test of true health care reform.”
“It is tragic to see the promise from Washington this year for genuine, comprehensive reform ground down to a seriously flawed bill that could actually exacerbate the health care crisis and financial insecurity for American families, and that cedes far too much additional power to the tyranny of a callous insurance industry,” said co-president Karen Higgins in a statement.
“Sadly, we have ended up with legislation that fails to meet the test of true health care reform, guaranteeing high quality, cost effective care for all Americans, and instead are further locking into place a system that entrenches the chokehold of the profit-making insurance giants on our health. If this bill passes, the industry will become more powerful and could be beyond the reach of reform for generations,” she added.
NNU is the first major union to flat-out oppose the Senate’s health care bill. While the union supports a single-payer health care system – indeed, at least one of its founding unions, the California Nurses Association, has a long history of fighting for single payer – it tied its opposition of the bill to 10 major shortfalls that will likely appear in the final bill. Several of their points of opposition echo FDL’s 10 reasons to vote against the senate bill.
1. The individual mandate forcing all those without coverage to buy private insurance, with insufficient cost controls on skyrocketing premiums and other insurance costs.
2. No challenge to insurance company monopolies, especially in the top 94 metropolitan areas where one or two companies dominate, severely limiting choice and competition.
3. An affordability mirage. Congressional Budget Office estimates say a family of four with a household income of $54,000 would be expected to pay 17 percent of their income, $9,000, on healthcare exposing too many families to grave financial risk.
4. The excise tax on comprehensive insurance plans which will encourage employers to reduce benefits, shift more costs to employees, promote proliferation of high-deductible plans, and lead to more self-rationing of care and medical bankruptcies, especially as more plans are subject to the tax every year due to the lack of adequate price controls. A Towers-Perrin survey in September found 30 percent of employers said they would reduce employment if their health costs go up, 86 percent said they’d pass the higher costs to their employees.
5. Major loopholes in the insurance reforms that promise bans on exclusion for pre-existing conditions, and no cancellations for sickness.
7. Inadequate limits on drug prices, especially after Senate rejection of an amendment, to protect a White House deal with pharmaceutical giants, allowing pharmacies and wholesalers to import lower-cost drugs.
9. Reduced reproductive rights for women.



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And what good does such criticism do? Obama is lying thru his teeth and getting away with it.
It ain’t over yet. This criticism is essential and needs to be amplified.
While Krugman and Ed and others keep saying that this bill is a start , the question is: Start of what? This isn’t medicare, a government program to provide benefits to people. It’s the announcement of the Health Industrial Complex. What will grow from the seed of making the IRS the collection agency for unpaid (and unwanted) insurance premiums?
So tomorrow we can expect the NNU to be hectored by Obama and mocked by Gibbs.
The nurses speak for me. I’d like to see Obama and Gibbs try.
And you will do what?
I want to be pessimistic, Michael, but despite FDL’s intense work, and any last minute efforts up the FDL Sleeve, you and Digby (who wrote a very interesting piece today) having hope, I’ll simply offer THIS DISMAL NEWS to counter thoughts on the subject that’s it’s Not Over Yet.
I’m not sayin it’s not over yet, but I ask, where any optimism given The House has folded to The Senate Bill already?
And what’s to prevent The Senate from KEEPING or ADDING Eshoo into the final product? Nelson is solid, so Stupak is out it appears, but Nelson sucks! As do mandates, and more . . . moving starting dates up is a deal maker? I hardly think so . . .
But right on definitely for the NNU and my fav CNA . . . thanks for giving them their propers, Michael, and for all you do . . . we hope on.
Ok just how bad do the polls have to get before the Dems get nervous that all won’t be forgiven on election day?
We need a goal. We need a list of things like 6 % unemployment and a 50% reduction in home foreclosures things Obama can choose to work for or he can choose to ignore or yes we will stay home on election day.
Not to mention a spate of DKos diaries attacking nurses. Why don’t they wear those little hats anymore? SO unprofessional…
But how can this be? I thought all good Democrats were supposed to expect nothing from those whom they helped elect into office, to shut up, and to fall in line.
Not.
Obama and Reid decided to allow real health care reform to be ruined, enabling sellouts rather than fighting for what’s right.
Now they will have to defend their failure. It’s so pathetic. Had they fought for real health care reform: they would have achieved it; they would have been hailed for their historic achievement; they would have secured for Democrats resounding electoral victory in 2010.
I, for one, would rather be singing their praises for having reformed our health care system. Instead, I have to sign petitions demanding that they kill the Senate’s joke on the American people.
They failed us all on so many levels.
WTF? Attacking nurses? They’re the only part of the medical industry that’s relatively uncorrupted by hubris and greed.
You think the kossacks will care about that?
What’s their problem? We’re not sufficiently obedient to our new master?
Not one accredited source in that piece, something somebody else mentioned about TPM earlier. “Aides” said this, “aides” said that.
All we can do is push back. If we fail with this bill all I can say is:
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.” Sir Winston Churchill, 1942
We’re comin’.
An organized campaign to get out of all Dem email lists, a pledge not to give to any Dem who votes for this healthcare bill. Maybe a pledge not to vote for any Dem who votes for this healthcare bill.
Maybe we can all cancel our newspaper, magazine subscriptions and cable tv given the economy nobody can ignore a 5% drop in revenue these days even if its only for a month. We say we cancel for a month to protest the media lying about healthcare, the war, the economy etc.
We need to hurt the corporations the banks the insurance companies forget the WH we know where the true power is.
It seems the prohealthcare/Rahm is great trolls taken to writing diaries on Koz but why not write diaries here?
I’ve long thought that a nationwide comsumer purchasing strike, say for a week, would scare the shit out of the PTB, even if it’s only a small % of the pop.
They can’t counter the criticism so they attack the messenger. A number of the most popular diaries over there rail against Jane, not on the substance of her criticism of the Senate bill but simply personal attacks.
The accompanying comment threads are MUCH worse.
I would not be surprised if Rahm has people actively working to create divisions between progressives. At the very least I believe they are fanning the flames.
Hi there RF and eCAHN – let’s make sure there’s a nuance here.
Markos is on the same side as Jane, AND there a re a bunch of good front pagers over there.
It’s Certain Loud Purity Kossacks (I think of them that way – CLPKs) that are an enormous pain.
The rest – not so bad.
Yeah, I know about the ‘sources’, plenty of our main reads quote ‘sources’ and when they agree with us, we like fine enough . . . *G*
Anyhoots, Grijalva is on record for caving in on the PO, at the least. HE’S arguing for an earlier start date for the coverage to start, instead of 2014 . . . but I don’t call THAT negotiating tactic a deal breaker . . . .
I think there’s PLENTY of reason to doubt and fear there will be any improvements over the Senate Bill at this point.
If there’s any pressure to be applied to any of them, the clock and procedural affairs are tickin out fast.
Don’t mean to harsh the mellow, it’s just something I see in the reality . . .
To add – some of those CLPKs? Sock puppets for beltway folks.
The high command probably has an idea of what kind of numbers we can get with the petition signatures a Lefty blog wide media campaign for a month could generate awareness. I wonder what the min amount of the population we need to scare the corporations is?
OT: Tea Partier Calls C-SPAN, Worried His Prayers For Byrd To Die Got Inhofe Instead
I’ve always agreed with ya on this one, and have said the same thing myself for decades when a point needs to be made. But alas, like the bodies in the streets by the millions over an extended period of time, it hasn’t happened.
I’d be willing to guess, the further the masses fall into the sink hole of our reality, the more they will be willing to push back harder and harder.
And dawg knows, the sinkage is ongoing . . . .
I don’t know about anyone else, but my next Democratic party is February 2. I’m going to help bring one more progressive into the senate, or let the Democratic leadership learn from their choices.
Perhaps a new t-shirt design? “I voted for change and all I got was this stupid sock puppet?”
Agreed Koz’s people never went after us before healthcare became an issue I blame infiltrators. I read Koz’s stuff all the time nice people good ideas.
These trolls smell like Rahm to me.
Dkos is not a site I visit frequently, and now I have another good reason not to. I’ve seen Markos on TV, so I know he’s dissatisfied with the senate bill. Just wondering why the diary writers differ so much. Did they put too much emotional effort into getting O elected, and can’t face the withdrawal symptoms.
Lack of income, some day, could make the consumer strike a necessity.
i love the work the CNA/NNOC has been doing in support of single payer and hope the merger will give that work more numbers and clout.
p.s. what role does rose ann demoro have in the new merged union?
YES!
Absolutely, hoss.
Money coming in from the corporate feudalists, going to assorted think tanks and non profit versions of ‘Orgs For America’ types, and orchestrated behind the scenes by Rhama’s to hide the money trail and keep it out of the DNC or the DLCC . . . . or maybe the money DOES come thru DNC and DLCC, in which case if I’m a reporter looking to break a story . . . *G*
I expect the House to cave as well. With the WH threatening them with purgatory they’ll vote the way Emanuel tells them to vote. Meanwhile we do what we can.
Sometime in Jan we’ll know one way or the other. Either way we have an opportunity to keep single payer alive and make it a campaign issue, one of many.
Never. Give. Up.
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/tea-partier-calls-c-span-worried-his-prayers-for-byrd-to-die-got-inhofe-instead.php?ref=fpblg
Lesson 1 prayers for death are not granted by God they are granted by the other guy…the Devil.
Lesson 2 the Devil will betray any moron who summons him if given half a chance!
That day is approaching quickly, methinks . . . . your point is well made, Ma’am.
I think that’s part of it, for a bunch of them. There’s a lot of Obama fawning sycophants there, because think about it:
Kos has HUGE amount of commenters, so you’re going to get a lot of limited info people there. Never blog anywhere else, only blog on kos. A tiny insular brain set.
Not all of them. Some are very good and very wicked funny.
But there are a lot of them concerned with how low your kos user id is! Not your life experience, comment or wisdom, but your damn reg. id!
How stupid is that.
Agreed . . .
The volume is unwieldy, commenting at Kos is only slightly better than commenting at HuffPo. Kinda like peeing in the ocean and then measuring to see if you raised the sea level.
Dinner ready, see y’all later.
I’d add that if I was spending money to PAY for shills and trolls in the blogosphere, I’d target my budget dollars to the most heavily trafficed sites (progs, not conservative) with the greatest amount of readers.
Then, spread my money around to fewer people to shill on the lesser trafficed sites, etc.
Hence, Kos would get tens of tens shills, FDL ten shills, as a rough analogy.
However, with Mz. Hamsher’s recent sojurns into the unexpected realms of ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK they’ve likely shifted those ratio’s accordingly.
And from what I’ve read here at FDL the past week, I think the comments speak for themselves!!!! ROFLMAO!!!! *G*
So they’re spending $900 billion in tax dollars and forcing millions of Americans to buy junk insurance, would you RATHER embarrass the president?
Maybe you had to be there to understand. Sounds weird to me.
Eli is upstairs!
Wanted: Fierce Advocate. Serious Inquiries Only.
Or like shouting “raise the drawbrige.” *g*
Lotta low value targets running around the Lake the last few days.
I don’t get cha, on that one hoss . . . sorry.
I’m slow today . . . been so much to read, brain is racing and I’m not good at sorting out what’s not plain and obvious to me . . . but I know you’ve got a point . . . lemme know after dinner . . . crackers again? *G*
Yep.
And thank for bringing this round full circle.
I shouldn’t have gone off track from Mike W’s post. It’s entirely clear that Labor and progressive activists have solid and sound reasoning to oppose the Senate bill.
It’s also entirely clear that we ain’t on-board with the Dem Leadership. So tough for the Dem Leadership!
Let’s turn that “Make Me Do It (Support The Bill) meme back on it’s head.
Make a bill we can spport, and no problem!
I’m seldom so entertained by so little . . . *G*
Well, it was a really BIG flea… “g”
Just pointing out the absurdity of passing a terrible bill just so the Dems can save face.
A time to buy, a time to refrain from buying…
A strike implies a choice. When all one’s credit cards are maxed out with nowhere else to come up with any cash as one’s house is foreclosed, then eviction is completed, the best we can hope for is a strike back.
With apologies to Pete Seeger, it feels like it’s already too late, except for the swearing.
With the release of the White House visitor logs, we can see just who Made Him Do It, can’t we?
Have to agree. A site with endless arguments but little fresh reporting or advocacy for activism to make things better is just a total time waster. It’s even sadder to think you may be wasting hours of your life arguing with paid shills. There’s simply no way to know with anonymous accounts. I have to admit, with comment uprating and the more discussion friendly nesting style, it did become addictive for me to post and follow comments there. I just blocked the site on my computer and will just stick with here and a few other sites with less comment activity.
I don’t dare bother with Huffington Post’s comments sections. 1000+ comments for nearly every article, laid out flat like here, not nested, is just madness.
If you wanted to destroy the progressive movement what would you do?
Let me tell you what the OwnerShip society would do.
In 2008, the progressive movement made the OwnerShip Class uneasy.
They found a guy name Obama, his hero was Reagan, another great actor in politics.
Obama actions scream that he is no progressive.
Obama is the wrecking ball that the elites are trying to use to destroy the progressive movement.
Obama and Rahm would love to work with a republican congress.
The threat to the elites is and will always be a progressive movement.
This health care bill is going to be sold as a progressive bill, this is what we must not let this happen!
Why not? Senator Barbary Boxer already dissed ‘em on Countdown…
FunnyWheelieDiva
Good job, nurses union!
Have they formally said that this turkey ought not to be passed?
A Dem Senator from CA dissing a union founded by a CA nurse’s union? Man, that’s in yer face.
Jed @ 19; I don’t think that Obama and Rahm want to “work with” a republican congress.
I think they would like one, so they can escape the onus of getting jackshit done with healthy democratic majorities in both houses.
The more republicans in congress, the less “leadership” required. Just coast and whine. Of course, there will be dues to pay, come 2012, and my 2c, I’m looking for some way to help deliver the political bill.
“I Voted for a Democrat and All I Got Was Another [censored] Republican”?
Yes, and also an influx of trolls, I think. Or at least people who want to believe even more than they want to actually look at truth.
There are a couple inescapable facts:
The Dems in the senate ARE going to lose seats. Two that WILL be lost for certain are Reid’s and Dodd’s. There are likely others as well but it is virtually certain those two are goners. This bill will only make their loss be by a greater margin.
The Dems, they are fucked.
And deservedly so.
The House will be losing an unknown number. Hell, they lost one today with a party switch. The others to be lost will be due to voters kicking their fat asses out.
And deservedly so.
I gave up on Huffpo after about six month of occasional visits, because it looked like every troll in the country was living there (and also because their site design made it difficult to actually find the stories). I don’t want to find out what it’s become.
Looks like Obama summoned the Devil to help with Healthcare
If I could join a union today the NNU would be the one.
The fact that the union is willing to stand against the Rham (Rove?) onslaught on principle shows strength and fortitude. They are real heros.
On the general Huffington comments issue, well one account I had got banned early on though I was never quite sure why. Perhaps because I was critical of a HuffPoster pushing investments in California rental property. Whatever. This is a nicer place to be.
Well, HuffingtonPost sometimes posts good stories, but also a lot of sensationalist crap, not to mention all the celebrity gossip trash…news the site also covers. The best site for raw news for the left/progressives, along with some good columnists, without extra crap is Common Dreams I think. They cover many areas from climate change to economic problems to war and aren’t distracted with the kabuki theater between parties and their paid hench[wo]men.
I skim the news headlines and read anything that looks interesting. I just don’t bother with the comments, which are worse than useless.
I remember what they did to the Govenator when he mocked them and took them on here in California. They turned him into a believer.
I was a nurse for many years. I watched helplessly as the corporation fired nurses, in order to increase profits, and predictably forced the few remaining nurses to also perform of the nurses who had been “riffed.” This caused great hardship, led to nursing errors, predictably as there were not enough nurses to take care of all the patients. But hey, it certainly increased the profits for the nonprofit corporation. We will regret this decision for a very long time
I worked as a nurse for many years. I watched helplessly as nurses were being fired in order to avoid the expense of paying their salaries. Conveniently it also served to save the cost for health insurance for these nurses. They concentrated on older employees (50 or over), employing trumped up charges and outright lies. Needless to say the remaining nurses had to also perform the jobs of the nurses who had been “riffed”, or simply fired. Nurses know that we are on a course to disaster, and that the speed is picking up daily. You can no longer deliver excellent or even adequate nursing care when you are stretched that thin. This is a disaster that will impact many future generation.
The Republicans have reached a new low. They applaud the suffering, dying, and destruction of human beings all in the name of raking up as much profit as possible.
What does it take? Desperate people refusing to obey the mandate to buy worthless junk insurance, refusing to pay the fine, and perhaps even allowing themselves to be jailed in protest? People committing suicide out of total desperation. Human life is pretty cheap if not meaningless to Republicans (unless perchance you are a fetus). This is sick. Unlike Republicans we do not pray for the death of senators to prevent the passage of health care. These conditions will only change when these self-serving politicians have to endure the same pain and tragedy that they are inflicting on their constituents. I pray that perhaps they might rediscover a forgotten “family value” such as compassion and empathy.
There’s one thing I know
Though I’m younger than you
That even Jesus would never forgive what you do!
Bob Dylan
Sorry, don’t know what happened, comment appeared twice.
I know the Democrats lose seats, but I’ve still retained enough optimism to believe that it matters how they do it. If progressives mounted meaningful primary challenges to Democrats, even if they didn’t win, it would help counter the argument that “the reason people didn’t like the senate health care bill was that we pushed too hard (on insurers)”.
We might even replace a Republican-voting Democrat with a real one.
So I think that going out and voting for primary challengers and third-parties in the general is better than staying home.
From a Washington Post interview with President Obama:
So we’re touting “a brand new union created earlier this month and the largest professional group of nurses in the country”….Did someone mention that the American Nurses Association (ANA) SUPPORTS HCR??…Now ANA is not a union. It advocates on behalf of all 2.9 Million nurses in the US. Let’s give this group credit though…They’re suddenly important in the FDL/Huffpo world. Could it be because of that long history of being a mover and shaker on behalf of nursing issues? Sadly, more likely, it’s because they’ve come out against the bill.
I love Rachel and lawrence, but both soft balled Boxer last night. No challenge at all.
And nurses are the first line of contact with patients so they see it all every day.
I’ve stopped reading Huffpo because it appears that there has been an organizational shift to paint democrats in the worst light possible. Basically, they shift principle to create a bully pulpit for Arianna H. Once this becomes obvious, readers lose faith and the site loses credibility.